We now know that Li-ion Fires are not just REGULAR Fires – Can we tame them?

OK we’ve seen what scary stuff the fire does – How do we put it out?
Easy Question!…… but there is NO EASY ANSWER….Sorry!

If the object is small – like a phone or a vape, then we might try to put it out. Actually it won’t burn for long. But it will have burnt your hand and your leg or your table or the seat of your car or your Teddy Bear……

What about using a Fire extinguisher? Maybe throw a glass of water or even a bucket of water over it?… or drop it in a bucket of water, but then you have to pick it up somehow when its burning. Dropping it into a bucket of water will contain it, but still there will gases, and it might not extinguish the fire and probably will reignite when you take it out.

Lets go back to the FIRE TRIANGLE to work out IF we can kill a Li-ion Fire.

Hang with me here! First the simple fires –

For a simple fire like burning cooking oil in a pan on a cooker, or a waste paper basket with a lighted cigarette thrown into it, we can use the fire triangle to show (what we already know intuitively – I know you know!!).

Burning paper, is not very hot, with fire passing from one piece of ‘fuel’ (paper) to another.
It can be put out with water…. a spray or a bucket…. the water instantly cools the fire and by wetting the paper makes it non-flammable, and the fire goes out

The cooking oil in the pan is more dangerous because it is a liquid burning which can flow if not contained in the pan

Putting water on the hot oil can be catastrophic. The hot oil is not extinguished by the water, because the oil floats on water. The water sinks to the bottom of the hot pan where it rapidly boils and vaporises, and then expands explosively, ejecting vaporised, burning oil over a large area increasing the size of the fire by maybe 10-100 times.

Removing the source of heat is not the answer. The heat generated by burning will sustain it.

The only safe and immediate way is to place a lid (preferably not flammable!) on the burning pan, which will immediately prevent oxygen reaching the fire which will die quickly.

Job done! Now we have to get serious with Li-ion fires ….. A Li-ion battery fire is VERY difficult to put out, for at least 4 reasons….. but most importantly – because EVERYTHING the fire needs is INSIDE the Battery
It has Fuel – the Chemical soup of the Electrolyte. It has Oxygen in the Battery and it generates Oxygen as well. It has Heat – the chemicals reacting together create a lot of heat, and If the battery is charged it has Electricity which will make the spark to ignite it all.
It starts with one or two of the many things that upset the Batteries….. we showed them in the last blog post. Then the battery starts to cook itself.
Let’s look at the sequence from the point of view of the principles of the Fire Triangle, starting just after the Battery has been ‘abused’ and is now cooking.

….. so how on earth are we going to put it out?

Water is almost completely ineffective. Water could eventually extinguish it but it will require a huge amount of water, and when the water stops the fire can re-ignite, in extreme cases, weeks later.

The ‘fuel’ gases are generated inside metal (battery) cans or pouches, so the source of heat is ‘sealed’ and cannot easily be cooled with water spray. In an EV they also are contained in a metal battery pack, which makes external cooling water even less effective.

And most other specialised powder or CO₂ extinguishers are too specialised. A Lithium-ion Battery fire involves ALL of the first three Classes of Fire –

Class A Flammable Solids
Class B Flammable Liquids
Class C Flammable Gases

No single extinguisher is The ‘Right’ one

Note:
Contrary to what you can read in many places, a Lithium-ION battery has no Metallic Lithium in it. This means that it is not a Flammable Metal Fire and a Class D extinguisher has no purpose.

The Battery also has Electrical wiring and Electricity – and this provides the Heat to ignite the fire. It also can make it extremely hazardous for Fire fighters, where an Electric Vehicle Battery could discharge more than 700 volts DC up the stream of water from a Fire Hose. This is very likely to cause a fatality.
There are some proprietary Fire-fighting chemicals and techniques, that have been developed to fight a LI-ion fire, but they are unlikely to be available in every office, home, restaurant or public space. They are made as Fire extinguishers and as bulk tanks of chemicals to deal with industrial scale fires. Many of them work by producing a protective layer of a sort of mud over the fire – “Encapsulating” the fire, removing the Oxygen and cooling the fire with water, while controlling the toxic gases. So we have seen that putting out a Lithium-ion battery fire is difficult – or almost impossible, and sometimes we barely have enough time to escape the explosion or fire, without a second to spare for putting the fire out…….

Maybe we have to forget about putting the Fire out, and accept that we cannot.

Maybe it is time to get more serious about avoiding a Lithium-ion Battery fire in the first place.

Here are some essential guidelines from – The Underwriters Laboratory, Facility Safety Management
To help people enjoy their many lithium-ion battery powered devices safely, FSRI’s new safety campaign offers consumers easy steps to Take C.H.A.R.G.E
  1. Choose Certified Products: When purchasing lithium-ion battery-powered devices, look for products that are listed or safety certified and approved by a national testing laboratory.
  2. Handle with Care: Follow the manufacturer’s instructions and use only the charger that came with the product. Do not modify or exchange batteries or chargers. Store and charge batteries away from extreme temperatures, direct sunlight, exits, and anything flammable. Charge larger devices (such as e-bikes) away from your exit path, behind a closed door, away from your sleeping area and/or outside your home, if possible. Do not charge larger devices overnight.
  3. Always Stay Alert for Warning Signs: Check battery-powered devices often, for damage or abuse such as swelling or punctures. Listen for unusual hissing or popping sounds. Watch out for excessive heat or a strange smell. White or grey wispy smoke indicates there is immediate danger of fire.
  4. Recycle Batteries Properly: Responsibly dispose of old or damaged batteries at the nearest battery recycling centre. Never discard batteries, chargers, or battery-powered devices in regular trash bins.
  5. Get Out Quickly If There’s a Fire: Know the warning signs to look and listen for and get out if you see – or hear them. Follow your fire escape plan to leave, closing doors behind you as you go, and call your Fire Service.
  6. Educate Others in Safe Practices: Help protect your friends and loved ones by teaching how they can Take C.H.A.R.G.E of Battery Safety.

The Take C.H.A.R.G.E.Campaign, shown here slightly edited, (without permission, but hoping they will not mind) is a joint effort by FSRI, USFA, CPSC and ATF to raise public awareness, with the endorsement of FDNY Commissioner Laura Kavanagh.

FINALLY – Don’t get hung up on putting the fire out.
** Don’t let it start **

Buy quality (Choose well) – don’t let the batteries overheat – unplug when charged – don’t charge unattended.
Think what it will look like if your item bursts into flames …. try to charge in a NON-flammable space – like a tiled hallway (or bathroom!) – or outside the house or room.


Vapes – DON’T modify them – don’t keep Vapes or Batteries in you pocket (get a VapeTote from us) – use the original charger – charge on a hard NON-flammable surface.

Cell phones – don’t let them get hot – use a cellphone charger for a cellphone – charge on a hard NON-flammable surface – don’t charge beside your head.

Laptops – don’t use on a soft surface – carpet, bed, cushion – don’t leave in the sun – unplug when charged – don’t charge unattended.

E-Scooters and E-bikes – Charge outdoors if possible – don’t charge in your bedroom – don’t charge near your exit – don’t leave on charge unattended, or all night.

EV’s – Don’t worry too much. If you want to protect another car next to your EV when charging, get a car fire blanket to cover the EV. Sprinklers will do nothing.

Don’t get too stressed about ‘Everything blowing up‘…… it won’t. Remember, the UL reckons that only – 1 Battery in 1 million Lithium-ion Batteries catches fire and explodes.

BUT, with millions of Batteries ‘out there’, it COULD happen to you. This is why we say –
Learn to LIVE with Li-ion

Live as if it can happen – Live SMART so it won’t

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Hi! I’m Jeremy! My goal with this Blog is to explain, simply, what is going on in Li-ion Batteries so everyone understands the Hazards
– how and why they go wrong,
and the Risks
– the chance that they will go wrong.
When we know these, we can clearly see what to do to reduce the risks – making everyone safer.

We offer certified courses for those people who want to learn more and be armed with a Certificate. These may be school teachers, or parents of children with Electric Scooters, E-Bike and e-Scooter stockists, Mariners, Engineers and Maritime Officers. The courses are critically important for anyone involved, through their profession, in the handling or working with Li-ion batteries and the products that are powered by them.

I am a sailor, Maritime teacher, Industrial Designer, manufacturer, and have lived and worked in many countries other than England, which is where I am from.

Note: Most of the illustrations you will see in this Blog are hand drawn or painted, perhaps because they help to get attention, and perhaps because what is important can be emphasised. However they ALL are based on photographs of REAL incidents. If there are any ‘Fake’ images in the Blog, they will be labelled ‘Fake’ and will be presented as we found them off the web, to show you what is realistic and what is not. You will understand when you see some!

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